Wendell Pierce on black resilience in America

August 2024 · 5 minute read

By Jacqueline SchneiderFeatures correspondent

Wendell Pierce talks to Katty Kay

US Special Correspondent Katty Kay launches Influential, her new episodic programme, with an intimate conversation with American actor Wendell Pierce.

An expert storyteller, actor Wendell Pierce uses language to infuse emotion, insight and even levity into the most sensitive subjects. At New Orleans' National WWII Museum, Pierce joins journalist and author Katty Kay on the premiere of her unscripted new series.

Pierce, the renowned, Juilliard School-educated actor, shot to popularity for his on-screen roles in The Wire and Suits, and on-stage in Death of a Salesman. Alongside sharing the secrets behind the emotive acting style that's earned him a slew of creative accolades, Pierce also shares a unique lesson about race and resilience in America.

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'Don't let anyone else tell you that your pursuit of liberty is wrong'

Kay and Pierce walk through the museum, decorated with medallions and war planes, to explore Pierce's relationship with his father, a World War Two veteran.

Pierce's father was drafted into the war aged 17. In Saipan, he received several medals of honour – yet the white woman who worked on his discharge didn't believe a young black man could earn them. He walked away undecorated. It wasn't until 2010 that his family received a letter, dated January 1945, confirming the honours. With the help of his State Senator, and the National WWII Museum, Pierce's father finally received his medals – even a ceremony among his family to present them.

Pierce's father could have been resentful for the delay, points out Kay – but Pierce said not only was he not, but he also emerged stronger.

"You fight your way, I fought my way. We're all going to get there some kind of way," Pierce says in his father's voice. "And that's what he taught me: that there's a dexterity to the to the conceit of what America is. And don't let anyone else tell you that your pursuit of liberty is wrong."

Watch: Pierce on his father’s reaction to the racism that kept him from World War Two honours

Kay also discusses with Pierce the legacy of his once-segregated New Orleans hometown, and the people who made it special – including his father.

When Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, the storm decimated Pierce's entire block – alongside, he says, the community that lived in it. It'd been devastating – but Pierce's personal history moved him to make a difference.

"Because of the Civil Rights movement, this neighbourhood was created. My parents, like the Moses generation, had created the sanctuary," he says. "And I knew I had responsibility as this part of their Joshua generation to rebuild it. And so, I put together an effort of residents and we rebuilt our neighbourhood, brick by brick, house by house, block by block, until we returned. And now we are on the Register of Historic Places on the National Register of Historic Places: Pontchartrain Park."

Much of Pierce's relationship with succeeding as a black man in the US – and owning his experiences – comes back to his father's legacy. "You know that he's one of those true patriots," says Pierce. "He loved his country, when his country didn't love him back." 

Watch: Pierce on why observing human nature is so important

'You have to create that world in your heart'

Kay also reaches to reveal the humanity behind Pierce's acting, which has enabled him to connect with audiences on a deep level, production after production. Speaking about researching his character Detective Bunk Moreland in The Wire – based on a real life, retired detective in Baltimore – Pierce says police officers are "students of human nature, like actors".

"How are you studying human nature every day to bring what you observe in people into your roles?" asks Kay.

"When you study a script, no one has to tell you how to feel when you lose a parent [for example]. When you study a script, and you realize that Cordelia watches King Lear die, you have to create that world in your heart, in your mind and in your spirit so strong, that it induces the behaviour of acting … I try to go there," says Pierce.

He says he even tries to fall in love with something about the romantic interests in his roles. “In that moment, do you Wendell Pierce almost really feel you love the other actor?” Kay asks.

Watch: Pierce on falling in love with other actors

“Yeah. That's why it's always dangerous," says Pierce, laughing. "If you're going to be a student of human behaviour, you go for it." 

As a career journalist and broadcaster since the 1990s, now also an author, Kay is familiar with the responsibility to create global impact as a public-facing storyteller. Her own experiences led her to ask the burning question about Pierce's role on the award-winning television show Suits, whose nine-season run earned it a half-dozen awards and the title as one Netflix's most watched series.

"When you played the role of Robert Zane in Suits, I can't imagine for a second that you thought you were playing the dad of a future princess [Megan Markle] – the royal family of England. How weird was that?" she asks.

"I didn't believe it. You know, when everybody was aware that Meghan was dating Prince Harry. I was like, 'man, you guys are making it up'," says Pierce with a smile.

Kay's conversation with Pierce marks the beginning of her revealing, nine-part interview series, which continues with American chef and author Ina Garten. New episodes premiere every Thursday at 10:30 p.m. ET on the BBC News channel, and will be available the following day on the BBC News YouTube channel. An audio version will be available wherever you get your podcasts.

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